{"id":367,"date":"2021-04-23T21:43:15","date_gmt":"2021-04-24T01:43:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sites.bu.edu\/storiesofwomen\/?p=367"},"modified":"2021-04-23T21:43:54","modified_gmt":"2021-04-24T01:43:54","slug":"interview-09","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sites.bu.edu\/storiesofwomen\/2021\/04\/23\/interview-09\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview #09"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Neither hundreds of cockroaches around her nor sharing a 26-bed capacity cell with 70 other women devastated her. With no clock in the cell, she and her cellmates made their own sun clock by using the sunbeams coming through the small windows of their cell. Only then could they figure out the time and start or break their fast in Ramadan. Still, she lovingly remembers the breakfast prepared by an elderly in the cell on the eid morning. The conditions were horrible, and the accusations were indeed offensive. Yet, it was the goodness of people around her that made her imprisonment unforgettable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sites.bu.edu\/storiesofwomen\/stories\/\">Back to list of interviews<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>English Translation:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>I don\u2019t really know how to start. First the coup happened. It was a very difficult day &#8211; I won\u2019t even go into that. After that, they started to suspend or dismiss government employees. One day I was suspended as well and then\u2026 and then I began to wait. We would hear that anyone that was suspended was getting detained or arrested. Also, we were hearing from the media that they would start judicial processes against the people who were suspended or dismissed. I was waiting. The waiting period was extremely difficult, day in, day out. You got worried every time you hear the elevator sound. Every time you were out, you would think \u201cWill it happen now?\u201d You were not actually guilty &#8211; you knew it- .Maybe, no one was. But you can only be sure of yourself in such a situation. The thing you were accused of was very grave. You knew that you were no traitor, but the witch hunt was already out there and you were waiting every day.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Is it today or tomorrow? Every time you hug your kids, you wonder if it\u2019s the last time. A few months after going like this, I was dismissed from my position. Then the possibility of getting arrested increased even more. Not long, two months later, there was a knock on the door. I had guests over. My sister and her family were visiting us overnight. You were already waiting for it every day, wondering with every knock if it\u2019s the time. I opened the door that day, and yes, it was them. I woke my husband up. Our guests woke up, too. They told me that they were going to get my testimony. I was relaxed a bit when they asked only for a testimony. Maybe they would only take my testimony, and release me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>I was getting ready to go with them while they were searching the house. According to what I heard later, they did not conduct a very serious, thorough search in our house because they were probably very tired. Earlier on, these searches were very serious, and meticulous. I asked then: \u201cHow should I get ready? Will I stay long?\u201d They said they were not sure, but told me to be prepared. I packed a few things. There wasn\u2019t a lot of time. The kids were asleep, as it was six in the morning. <\/span><i><span>(Crying) <\/span><\/i><span>I kissed the kids in their sleep. They told me not to wake them up. They knew that the kids would create trouble if they were up. I have two kids; one is ten now, the other is five.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Then I went with them. The official proceedings were carried out. Actually, there was so much to tell that I don\u2019t know where to start. As we were leaving the house, the police officer showed me the paper he was holding. \u201cDo you know what you are being accused of?\u201d he asked. \u201cNo,\u201d I said, \u201cI don\u2019t know why you\u2019re bringing me in.\u201d He said that I was being accused of being a member of FETO <\/span><i><span>(Gulenist Terror Organization: the name given to the Gulen movement by the Turkish government after the coup attempt.)<\/span><\/i><span> I guess he just said it to serve notice. As I said, \u201cOkay,\u201d I saw the order to be taken into custody on the sheet of paper. Then, I realized that it was not going to be just a testimony. When I went to the police station, the first papers the police officer handed me read \u201cPYD.\u201d I objected there. (PYD is the Democratic Union Party which is a Syrian Kurdish Party, also declared a terrorist organization by the Turkish Government. Before the coup attempt, Gulen movement was called PDY (In Turkish: Paralel Devlet Yapilanmasi) meaning parallel state organization. The acronyms were mistyped in the documents given to her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u201cWhere is PYD coming from? I understand FETO, that\u2019s why I was suspended from my job, but where is PYD coming from?\u201d They had no idea what they were doing. They couldn\u2019t even tell the difference between PYD and PDY. We were the ones who had to distinguish between all these made up terms. I told him: \u201cLook, it says PYD here. There is no way I can be accused of this, where is it coming from?\u201d We argued a little, he got angry, frustrated. We were being accused of something even the police officers didn\u2019t know about. Whatever kind of organization it is, they didn\u2019t even know its name.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Anyway, I made him correct it. Then, I went into custody with my headscarf on. I took a light, thin head scarf with me and went to the jail. I thought I would walk in like that. There were two women inside without headscarves. In fact, their hair was fully down without pins or ties. When I saw them sitting like that I worried as to what kind of people they were locking me in with. One of them had a hood on. I was deeply surprised and anxious. When I went in and sat down in anxiety the woman with the hood on explained her dismissal record to me. She asked me if mine was the same and I confirmed. Turns out, they were all government employees, teachers and they were all there due to FETO accusation. You feel at ease when you hear this- because then, being accused of FETO activity means that person is indeed innocent. You would not expect any harm from her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>I relaxed a bit and sat down. It turns out that they made you take your headscarf off when you came in. They took mine away and my hair pins as well. We sat like that. I had taken my headscarf off for the first time since the February 28 military intervention <\/span><i><span>(February 28 is the name given to the time that followed the military memorandum declared by the Turkish military on February 28, 1997. In the aftermath, religious schools were shut down and headscarf was banned in schools, universities and government offices. The memorandum is also known as a postmodern coup.).<\/span><\/i> <i><span>(Crying). <\/span><\/i><span>I went through February 28 as an Imam-Hatip school student (Imam Hatip schools are public secondary Islamic schools). I lived through all those difficulties in that time. I went to college without my headscarf. We knew the people then were completely against it. Such a situation was not surprising at that time, but now&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Being forced to remove my headscarf in custody under a conservative government highly offended me. It was thought that there were steps being taken to make the public more conservative or to raise a more religious conservative generation; however, they forced us to remove our headscarves. That was quite offending. They didn\u2019t even give us the pins on our headscarves in case we used them to hurt ourselves, or commit suicide. These were ridiculous policies. If we wanted to, we could easily find other ways to do that, like the sleeves of our jackets. However, everyone there was far from such things. I didn\u2019t hear such policies in other cities, but it happened in my city.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There were people from other cities as well. There were these two friends. They came later and we stayed there for seven days. They took our testimonies on the second day but still kept us in for about seven days. Then we were sent to appear in court. Without properly listening, they immediately ordered our arrest. We were 23 people in custody, of the remaining 19 were men and 3 were women. When we appeared in court that day, they ordered all of us to be detained<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Let me quote from a friend who was detained with us. There were lawyers among us. When she met with her lawyer, the lawyer said to her: \u201cI was meeting with the judge. At the beginning of the first hearing, the judge called the prosecutor, and asked: \u2018What should we do with the ones that are coming in today?\u2019. After a very short conversation, the judge just said \u2018Okay\u2019 and hung up.\u201d Then we were all detained that day. The prosecutor likely ordered for everyone to be detained. They disregarded all our pleas. There was someone set to be married the next day. After seeing them, we were grateful for our circumstances. The others assumed that they would let us go as we were women with children.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>After they detained even us, they all lost hope. We were taken to a prison. What we went through on the way was very rough. We were handcuffed and taken away. After everything I have been through, I personally did not mind the handcuffing too much, but there were some who got very upset. To me, that was only a tangible representation of what we had been going through. We were transported from the courthouse to the prison in a vehicle. We passed by my house and I got very sentimental. They did not allow me to see my kids or my family earlier in the courthouse.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We were able to have some civilized conversations with the police officers who were taking us. A riot squad was also sitting with us. Jokingly, I said we should stop by so I could see my kids. Another detainee said \u201cwe should drive by my house\u201d and laughed. The officer in charge was a female officer. I said to her: \u201cThink about your own kids, I haven\u2019t seen mine in a week, I wish I could see them just once.\u201d She was young, around 20. She said: \u201cWhat\u2019s a week? I haven\u2019t seen my parents in 6-7 months.\u201d I responded: \u201cYou are not in need of care, neither are your parents.\u201d She replied: \u201cIf you are so thoughtful about your kids you shouldn\u2019t have gotten yourself locked up.\u201d Then I asked: \u201cWhy do you assume I\u2019m guilty?\u201d She answered: \u201cWhy would you be in here if you weren\u2019t?\u201d I said: \u201cIn case you haven\u2019t noticed, we have been arrested but not convicted. You will not be the one to judge, the court will.\u201d Then the officer silenced me.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Our country was in the hands of 20-year-old police officers who did not know the difference between being under arrest and receiving a conviction. Police officers who lacked knowledge of the difference between PYD and PDY. It\u2019s truly frustrating. We got to the prison. I had no expectations, I didn\u2019t know much. I just knew that X prison was an old building, but I did not expect that bad.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We went into the aged building. The required procedures and searches were done. They searched our clothes. We went inside. When the doors opened, it was as if the bunk beds and the furniture were trapping you. It was so crowded. There were 3 of us women there. I believe they were 54 people before and with us it went up to 57- the ward was intended for 26 people. Our ward was still one of the better ones. On the adjacent side or in other sections there were wards in much worse conditions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There was a hallway with a sink on one side. A kitchen area at the end connected to a bathroom through a separate hallway. There were two rooms- one was for sleeping, the other was for socializing. There were almost 70 people staying during the mass arrests at the beginning. They put intense pressure on the prison administration to host that many people. Think about it, there were 26 beds and 70 occupants. Fortunately, the early prisoners had them bring some bunk beds into the rooms.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>The first to be arrested were judges and attorneys. They knew how things work there. God used their hands to prepare that area for those of us yet to come. If we had gone first, perhaps we would have not followed such a course, as we would not have known what to do. In other words, everything was in one room; beds on one side, kitchen on one side and the bathroom on the other- it was much more rough there. They were intended for about 14 people but about 20 stayed there.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There were 3 wards for FETO. We were received very well when we arrived. The ones inside had a calmness to them, they said they were all there due to FETO. Hearing that puts you at ease. We also told the newcomers as they came: \u201cDon\u2019t worry, this entire place is FETO.\u201d People were so relieved because there are so many types of people you could be confined with- thieves, murderers, drug addicts. We stayed with those kinds of people as well some nights.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Going back to the types of people, there was a girl who was a drug addict that was brought in one night. She asked us what we were guilty of. She was young, around 20. She was in scraps and clearly living on the streets. One of my friends, kind of a joker, told her to not even ask because it was so serious. The girl insisted, saying she was really curious. She asked if we were there for murder. In an ironic way, we said it was even more serious than that, and she became scared. I said: \u201cDo you know about FETO? Do you get to watch TV? We are here because of that.\u201d She said she did know: \u201cEvery time I come here there are people in for FETO. They take up all the spaces to sleep. There are no doctors, attorneys, teachers left outside; they\u2019re all here. Whenever we come in, there is no space to sleep.\u201d We laughed- it was truly tragicomic.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Even a drug addicted girl who lived on the streets was aware of this. Aware of what state the country was in, and who was being arrested. Like I said, we were well received in the ward. It was almost 11pm by the time we got there, but the other prisoners welcomed us, and prepared food and told us to go shower if we needed to. They really put us at ease. There was no space to sleep however, as the bunk beds were often pushed together. For example, 3 bunk beds were brought together for 4 people to sleep. They showed us to 2 bunk beds that were brought together for 3 people to sleep. I joined as the fourth. There was a little kid around 3 years old next to me- he was staying with his mother. I felt bad thinking about how close he was in age to my son and how similar their hair was.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>He would occasionally wake up during the night and call out for his mother. I would take it for my own son\u2019s voice sometimes. Each time it would make me think of him and wonder what he was doing that night. It was extremely difficult for the children staying there. The boy I just talked about, both of his parents were arrested, he stayed with his grandmother for months. He had forgotten how to speak. When I came into the ward, he had been staying with his mother for a few months. He started speaking again, and opened up quite a bit. His mother said he had regained most of his vocabulary. Stuff like this has still continued to happen every day. While some are being released, some others are prosecuted.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>I don\u2019t know what to say. There were so many people. Each and every one of these life stories were quite heartbreaking. There was another kid. He was very energetic, and troubled his mother a lot. He arrived about a month after us. His mother was very agitated, having nervous breakdowns every once in a while. We were so upset by her situation. I don\u2019t know what to say right now, there are too many things to tell. I\u2019m trying to pull my thoughts together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We got into the prison in September. It had been about 8 months. When we got in, there were people who had been staying there for 8 months, some for 7, some for 5-6 months. Most of them did not even have indictments. People were stuck there for months, only a few appeared in court. Release without trial was very rare. Then, slowly, the trials began. They started around May. Almost everyone who was arrested because of their Bank Asya accounts (one of the banks that was later shut down by the government due to alleged ties with Gulen movement) were released during those trials. After 9-10 months of imprisonment, they were not even properly listened to in court. The trials moved rapidly. They said the judges did not even properly hear their defense. We wondered if the whole process was slowly coming undone. The first arrests were made to those who had accounts in Bank Asya. People who had money in Bank Asya were treated as felons. They were immediately suspended and immediately arrested. If you had money in Bank Asya you would certainly be arrested.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>That\u2019s what people thought. However, 8-9 months later, they were released without even a proper trial. You could not figure out if it was actual court or just a theater performance. What put us at ease was believing our time would come. Even though it looked grave for the moment, that day would come for each of us. One day all these serious allegations would become void. Meanwhile, we went through a lot of struggles in that old prison, let me mention some of those. Until June, we stayed in this old prison, and then we were moved to a new facility. The conditions in this old prison were extremely poor. Some people had stayed in this prison for almost a year. 70 people were trying to fit in a space intended for 26 people. At times there were 63 women and 7 children staying. There were always at least 60 of us. There was basically no air flow. Think of tiny windows, as small as bathroom windows, and very high ceilings.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>On the side of one wall there were 5-6 windows- they were like bathroom windows. Only some sunlight would come through those windows. Normally they had glass, at least three of them. There was a ceiling fan for ventilation but we were just too many people in one room. It was impossible for us to get any air. There was also an air conditioner which was installed after laboriously putting together letters and petitions. It wasn\u2019t enough, though. Even in the winter the AC had to be on cold, imagine what it was like during the summer. In fact, during the summer, around May or June, the AC broke down. It was dripping water but they did not bother fixing it, as we were being moved to a new facility. The AC dripped water constantly. There would be constant dripping in the area we used for praying. We would put buckets there and remove them during the prayer. It was literally like Survivor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There was also a serious cockroach infestation. It\u2019s something impossible to describe to an outsider. They were basically flowing in from the walls, especially in the bathroom area. There were so many. They were everywhere. It was very disgusting, but there was nothing we could do. So I tried to get used to it. I don\u2019t think I ever got used to it though. I just learned to live with it. Before, when I was at home, I would scream even if I saw just one. I don\u2019t think I would react that way anymore. I thought of those conditions as a personal test. Many others thought the same way. Maybe, everyone was being tried by their own weaknesses. Everyone thought they were being put to a spiritual training through these conditions.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>They were on the counters, inside the beds. We spent Ramadan there also. When we got bread, they would bring it early and we would put it in a bag. We had to tie it up tightly and carefully preserve it. We would wrap it up in cloth to keep away from the bugs. One time, one of the bags got a hole in it. I picked it up and when I did it was full of bugs. There were too many. It was so disgusting, maybe it\u2019s unpleasant to hear these but we lived that way for months. We seriously tried to cover all the food. Whenever someone got food, we covered it up right away. Even if there was a very small hole on the food tins, they could get in them because they were constantly on or around them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Showering was also very difficult. There was a bathroom stove to heat the water. It heated up with wood. That\u2019s how we got warm water- there weren\u2019t even solar panels for hot water. This meant we could only shower on the days we received wood. Sometimes there wasn\u2019t any, so we wouldn\u2019t get any. On those days, only the ones that had to take ghusl (a religious cleaning ritual) showered. Some days we had wood &#8211; when there was wood we could shower only twice a week. However, in that crowd, in May- which wasn\u2019t even peak summer- you felt the need to shower every single day. Despite that, we could only shower twice a week. There was no wood. The ones that really felt the need to shower did so with cold water.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There was a waiting line to shower, to use the bathroom, to receive food, to pray. Sometimes, especially when the evening prayer time was shorter, the praying area would not be free from prayer until 5 or 10 minutes before the call-to-prayer for night prayer. It would take until the next call-to-prayer time for all of us to finish praying.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>One day completely unrelated people came in. None of them were actually related to FETO (Gulen Movement), not even close. We were especially upset for them. None of us deserved to be there of course. We were not terrorists, we were not traitors. However some of us had sent our kids to schools, some had worked in prep schools, some had stayed in the dorms some had been the admin of the dorms (associated with the Gulen movement). These were the type of people there (in the ward). The ones who just came had nothing to do with any of it and had been brought in due to ByLock (An encrypted messaging app. The Turkish government claimed that it was used to organize the coup attempt.). You look around, you are surrounded by people most of whom you would think no harm could come from, even if they were associated with FETO- but they were still there. They all went through different struggles. Their families all went through different problems. One person in the prison means at least 10 &#8211; 20 people being affected outside. When one person that\u2019s been awaited with teary eyes is locked in, the entire family was psychologically affected. They were under financial and emotional strain, too.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Some of the couples were both locked in, and their kids were without their parents outside. When we saw those couples, we realized how lucky we were to have our husbands out with our kids. We thanked God for our circumstances when we saw theirs. There were those whose situation is much worse than ours. We didn\u2019t even talk about our husbands around those that were locked in as couples in fear of hurting or upsetting them. Of course, just because they were out didn\u2019t mean they were safe- you constantly worried about them. You would worry if he would be free and make it to the next open visit to see you. It would be so much worse if they were also brought in. Being away from your kids is very hard on you at first. I had dreams about them every night.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>In most of my dreams, I was at home for a few hours. I had taken the kids out somewhere for a while but I would have to go back. These were the kind of dreams I had. Even your dreams are limited. We learned to forget, we learned to put our trust in God because we had no control over anything. It was all up to God. There was an older woman. She kept saying \u201cGod put us here. God will get us out.\u201d Once you reach that level of trust in God, you don\u2019t feel the pain anymore. You don\u2019t have any expectations after that point, you just feel upset about what\u2019s going on. When you forget about your own pain. You feel upset over the pain of others.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We were moved to the new facility shortly before Eid. In that new place, so many people came in and went out. Many people were released, but also new people were brought in. The releases were quite frequent, once in every week on the average. So, it would be our ward that would receive the new inmates. Seeing the newcomers broke my heart. We were overjoyed for the ones that left, more than we would be for ourselves. Seriously, when I was released, I did not feel the joy I felt for the others. It\u2019s impossible to be happy when you remember the people left behind, but when someone is released, you feel so happy that one more person is saved. When you experience both extreme happiness and sadness about everything- every news from TV such as new clothing for inmates charged for terror, every opinion, any news about the kids- makes you upset. I became unable to handle it; that\u2019s why I started having panic attacks.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>I was released after a while. They announced a list of 10-20 people. Every name on that list was released; they were suddenly acquitted. We hear about them nowadays. Even though they were acquitted, no one would be able to make up for the months they spent in there. There was a 62-year-old woman; she stayed there for 3-4 months. There was a young girl in her 20s. Her mother was Arab but she was arrested on FETO accusations which she had not the slightest clue about.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>She was arrested because she had ByLock. These were the people completely unrelated with FETO. All of them were released. We were so happy about them. On the other hand, we were not actually guilty either. We kept hoping for the day we would be acquitted.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Let me talk a little about the physical conditions of the new facility. We thought things would be better in the new one, but it was like a construction site. It had been cleaned but only scantily. It was still filthy. There was cement residue, dried paint, and sand. We washed the sleeping quarters for days. We struggled a lot with the sand, which didn\u2019t go away. We couldn\u2019t drink the water in the new facility, as it was not in drinkable condition. So, we used the water we got from the canteen. There was no water even for cleaning. In the beginning, for about a week, they didn\u2019t give us any cleaning supplies- no mop, no bleach, no nothing. We didn\u2019t even have a bucket for cleaning ourselves in the bathroom. We cut open plastic water bottles and used those.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We suffered even more in the new place. There were no clocks. Also, we had moved during Ramadan. We already had no way to see the sun, so we couldn\u2019t properly tell the times for iftar or sahoor (Fasting times in the day). The windows were a little bigger in the new place. In the old place we could get out of our cells to the common area twice a day: in the morning from 9am to 12 am and again from 3.30pm to 6.30 pm. In this new place, we could go to the common area between 7am and 7pm, but like I said we had no idea when iftar or sahoor were. We had no clocks, no calendars. We got used to telling time from the shadows the sun created in the outside area. We started to draw lines there. We made marks: you know, it means it\u2019s around 12 pm at this mark, around 3 pm at this one. We guessed the approximate time based on the point of the sun on the wall. We lived like that for a week. We were asking the officers around.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>We spent two Eids there: Ramadan and Eid-al-adha. It was very hard to be away from my family on these holidays. We all tried to suppress our misery to avoid upsetting the others. One person crying, looking upset there affected everyone else. We knew this, so we all tried to seem cheerful. There was a woman in her 50s, God bless her, she acted like a mother to us. On the morning of the Eid, she woke up early and prepared breakfast, moved the tables to the garden- by that I mean the common area. She prepared breakfast and woke us up. In the prison, the conditions were very difficult. The accusations were very offensive. The only thing that made it better were the people. I met some very good, excellent people. There\u2019s probably so much more to tell&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>Q &amp; A:<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: We\u2019re running out of time for you. If you want let\u2019s take a break for now and meet again. By then you can straighten out what you haven\u2019t told and what you want to tell. May I ask a few questions about what you have told so far? How long did you stay in that cell intended for 26 people but used by 70?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: I stayed there around 2.5 months.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: You said some kids had to stay with their grandmother, and forgot how to speak there. Then, after they got back together with their mother, they regained the ability. Why did this forgetting happen? Do you think the kid regressed in speaking outside due to the trauma of being away from their mother, or was it the consequence of being neglected?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: I guess it\u2019s both because they did not have their mother nor father when their language skills were starting to develop. It\u2019s probably trauma-related but if the grandparents were more conscious and more caring then the trauma might have been overcome more easily without hindering language development- they had mentioned that the grandmother and grandfather lived in a small village where they were unable to attend the child a lot.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: You also said there were some who had nervous breakdowns in there. Why and how did those happen?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: It happened many times. One was the woman staying with her kid. The kid was just too grim, and troublesome. Everyone was psychologically drained- those that were arrested as a couple had an especially hard time.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: Was it one person or multiple people?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: Many people and many times. I know the reason was the kid for that mom. There was another woman who got there 20 days before me. She had a nervous breakdown after getting back from her first open visit. I felt really really bad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: What do you mean by a nervous breakdown?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: For some it was very intense crying, not like losing consciousness and fainting but crying very loudly and thrashing around. I\u2019m talking about hysterical crying. Some others had psychological disturbances due to unresolved trauma. Some of them also used medication. It was happening their medication was late, or when they were emotional over the events going on- close to a court date. Sometimes, after a visit, or when they missed their kids very much, or when they saw a photo of them. They went into a hysterics close to losing consciousness.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>Q: When you were first placed in custody, what was the reaction of the household and your spouse?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>A: We were all anxious. My husband anticipated it, but it\u2019s still very difficult to live through no matter how prepared you are. We all became very worried. A great unknown was upon us. We reacted calmly though and the officers came. In the end it wasn\u2019t something that the officers decided themselves so we tried to comply as much as possible. Everyone was terribly upset of course, since we didn\u2019t deserve such a thing. We were also worried about whether there would be a conviction or not. We tried to hide it from the kids.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>There was a closed visit for half an hour every week and an open visit every two months. Most prisons have open visits every month but this one, even though it was a women\u2019s prison, had it only every two months. The open visits were an hour. We could meet with the visitors face to face around a table during the open visits. The closed visit was through a glass by phone. We also had the right to a phone call every two weeks. In the bylaws, it was stated that the open visits were to be between 30 minutes and 1 hour. In the new place they were around 45 minutes, they didn\u2019t allow 1 hour. It was the full hour in the old place. We argued with the admin over why it was only 45 minutes a few times.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>They gave us an extra visit for the first time during Eid. Other prisons gave extra visits during Eid, New Years, special holidays, 23rd of April and such. But we only got it only on Mother\u2019s day and during one of the Eids. This was after we wrote petitions. They kept those short as well, though. This was completely up to the officers there- it was stated that the visits had to be between 30 minutes to an hour but it was the officers\u2019 decision to cut it short. This was truly upsetting us. People had been waiting for 2 months, they had traveled long distances. There were many who had come from kilometers away, from different cities just for the half hour. It meant so much to get to hug our kids for an extra minute, the limitations really really hurt us.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>My daughter is 10 years old, she was 9 then. I had prepared her a little for this process. I had told her about what might happen. She was a perceptive kid anyway, she had mostly been following the events since the coup. She was aware the country was a mess but she didn\u2019t expect it would have any impact on us. I naturally told her when I had been suspended. I had prepared her by saying the government would be questioning a lot of people to find the real traitors. I had anticipated I would be called to give a statement. That\u2019s what everyone said &#8211; they said that everyone that was suspended would be called to give a statement and be kept in custody which is what happened. In the beginning we heard that in our city, people were taken into custody and kept there for anywhere from a day to a week. Once I heard this I decided to prepare my daughter. She was a smart kid. It was still difficult, but I told her that I would have to leave but I would come back. So, it wasn\u2019t a huge shock. Her aunts were also home the day I was taken in and they sent her off to school. When sending her they just told her that I was out doing the shopping and stuff, then, when she came back, they pulled her aside and told her the full story. She says that she knew when her aunt said they needed to talk. She says she asked if mom was gone. Apparently she didn\u2019t cry at all the first day, probably from the shock. Then she questioned if she wasn\u2019t crying because she didn\u2019t love her mom. Then, she cried over that. Since she didn\u2019t know the concept of shock she cried in the following days. She was very mature during the whole process. She wrote letters to me saying she knew I was innocent and that I would come home.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Turkish Transcription:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/sites.bu.edu\/storiesofwomen\/stories\/\">Back to list of interviews<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Nas\u0131l ba\u015flayaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 cok ben de kestiremiyorum bu uzun bir s\u00fcre\u00e7. Darbe oldu ilk ba\u015fta zaten cok mesela zor bir g\u00fcnd\u00fc o k\u0131sma hi\u00e7 girmeyece\u011fim bile. Ondan sonras\u0131nda s\u00fcrekli memur at\u0131lmaya ba\u015fland\u0131, aciga almalar, ihra\u00e7lar falan filan derken bir g\u00fcn ben de a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nd\u0131m. Ve ondan sonra beklemeye ba\u015flad\u0131m. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nan herkesin tutukland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 falan duyuyorduk. Zaman zaman g\u00f6zalt\u0131 bir \u015fekilde bu adli s\u00fcreci de ba\u015flatacaklar\u0131n\u0131 duyuyorduk medyadan. Bekliyordum. O bekleme s\u00fcreci de ayr\u0131 bir zorluk, her g\u00fcn, her gece. Bir asans\u00f6r\u00fcn sesi her geldi\u011finde bekliyorsunuz, her yola \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zda acaba \u015fimdi mi diyorsunuz, hi\u00e7 bir su\u00e7unuz yok asl\u0131nda bunu biliyorsunuz. Kimsenin hi\u00e7bir su\u00e7u yok belki ama, herkes kendinden emin olabilir ancak b\u00f6yle bir durumda. Su\u00e7land\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z \u015fey \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r vatan haini olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 biliyorsunuz ama yine de \u00f6yle bir cad\u0131 av\u0131 var ki bekliyorsunuz her g\u00fcn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bug\u00fcn m\u00fc yar\u0131n m\u0131? \u00c7ocuklara her sar\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131n\u0131zda bu son sar\u0131l\u0131\u015f\u0131m m\u0131 diyorsunuz. B\u00f6yle bir s\u00fcre\u00e7 ya\u015fad\u0131ktan sonra aylar sonra, birka\u00e7 ay sonra ihra\u00e7 oldum. Ondan sonra ihtimal daha da artt\u0131. \u00c7ok ge\u00e7medi 2 ay kadar sonra bir sabah kap\u0131 \u00e7ald\u0131. Evde misafirlerim de vard\u0131. Ablamlar vard\u0131. Zaten her g\u00fcn bekliyorsunuz, her \u00e7alan kap\u0131da acaba m\u0131 diyorsunuz ama o gun de kap\u0131ya gittim bakt\u0131m evet gelmi\u015flerdi. E\u015fimi uyand\u0131rd\u0131m. Misafirlerimiz ayakland\u0131 falan. \u0130fadeni alaca\u011f\u0131z dediler tabii ki. Ben ifadeni alaca\u011f\u0131z deyince biraz rahatlad\u0131m. Acaba ger\u00e7ekten sadece ifade al\u0131p b\u0131rakacaklar m\u0131 diye.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bir yandan haz\u0131rlan\u0131yorum bir yandan evi ar\u0131yorlar. Ondan sonra onlar da \u00e7ok yorulmu\u015flar galiba. Sonradan duydu\u011fumuz kadar\u0131yla \u00e7ok ciddi detayl\u0131 bir arama yapmad\u0131lar bizde. \u0130lk zamanlar \u00e7ok ciddi aramalar yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f \u00e7ok didiklenmi\u015f. Bizde \u00e7ok ciddi bir arama yap\u0131lmad\u0131. Ama o s\u0131rada sordum i\u015fte \u201cNas\u0131l haz\u0131rlanay\u0131m, \u00e7ok kal\u0131r m\u0131y\u0131m?\u201d. Belli olmaz falan filan dedi, yine de tedbirli ol falan dedi. Birka\u00e7 e\u015fya ald\u0131m. \u00c7ok vakit yoktu. \u00c7ocuklar uyuyordu, sabah\u0131n alt\u0131s\u0131yd\u0131. (Burada a\u011fl\u0131yor) \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 uyurken \u00f6pt\u00fcm uyand\u0131rma dediler. \u00e7\u00fcNk\u00fc uyan\u0131rlarsa zorluk \u00e7\u0131karacaklar\u0131n\u0131 onlar da biliyorlard\u0131. \u0130ki tane \u00e7ocu\u011fum var bu arada, biri \u015fu anda 10 ya\u015f\u0131nda, biri de 5 ya\u015f\u0131nda.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Sonra gittim. \u0130ste gerekli i\u015flemler falan yap\u0131ld\u0131. Asl\u0131nda anlatacak o kadar \u00e7ok \u015fey var ki neresinden tutaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 bilmiyorum. \u0130lk i\u015flemler s\u0131ras\u0131nda, pardon evden \u00e7\u0131karken \u00f6ncelikle polis memuru elindeki ka\u011f\u0131d\u0131 g\u00f6sterdi. Sen ne ile su\u00e7land\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyor musun dedi. Hay\u0131r dedim. Neden dolay\u0131 ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 bilmiyorum. \u0130\u015fte FET\u00d6 su\u00e7lamas\u0131yla al\u0131yoruz falan dedi. Tebli\u011f etmi\u015f olmak i\u00e7in yapt\u0131 san\u0131r\u0131m bunu tamam dedim o s\u0131rada elindeki ka\u011f\u0131tta g\u00f6zalt\u0131 karar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fcm. Anlad\u0131m zaten art\u0131k. Gitti\u011fim zaman da polis memurunun \u00f6nce verdikleri ka\u011f\u0131tlarda PYD yaz\u0131yordu, itiraz ettim orada, birazc\u0131k \u015fey oldu.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Pyd nereden \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131 hadi FET\u00d6&#8217;y\u00fc biliyorum a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131n\u0131rken FET\u00d6 diye a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nd\u0131k. Ama dedim PYD nereden \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131, ama yapt\u0131klar\u0131 i\u015fin bile ne oldu\u011funu bilmiyorlar onu diyeyim PYD ve PDY&#8217;nin fark\u0131n\u0131 bilmiyorlar, uydurma olan bu \u015feyleri bile biz ay\u0131rt ettik, s\u00f6yledim bak\u0131n burada PYD yaz\u0131yor benim bununla su\u00e7lan\u0131yor olmamam laz\u0131m, nereden \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131 diye sordum. Birazc\u0131k orada tart\u0131\u015ft\u0131k, k\u0131zd\u0131, can\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131ld\u0131 bilmedikleri bir \u015fey y\u00fcz\u00fcnden bir polis memurunun bile fark\u0131ni bilmedikleri bir \u015fey y\u00fcz\u00fcnden su\u00e7lan\u0131yoruz. Nas\u0131l bir \u00f6rg\u00fct ise nas\u0131l bir yap\u0131lanmaysa art\u0131k. Ad\u0131n\u0131 bile bilmiyorlar.<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Orada neyse tebli\u011f yapt\u0131 falan, ben d\u00fczelttirdim ondan sonra gozaltina, nezarete gitti\u011fimizde ben ba\u015f\u00f6rt\u00fcl\u00fc bir \u015fekilde gittim. Yazmam\u0131 falan ald\u0131m. \u0130\u00e7eriye do\u011fru gitti\u011fimde o \u015fekilde girece\u011fime d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordum. \u0130\u00e7eride orada iki tane bayan vard\u0131 ba\u015flar\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131k hatta sa\u00e7lar\u0131 da a\u00e7\u0131k toka falan yok. O \u015fekilde otururken g\u00f6r\u00fcnce acaba kimlerin aras\u0131na at\u0131yorlar beni falan gibi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm bir tanesi var kap\u015fonlu b\u00f6yle \u015fa\u015f\u0131rd\u0131m \u00f6yle bir tedirginlik ya\u015fad\u0131m ondan sonra geldi\u011fimde tedirgin bir \u015fekilde oturunca kap\u015fonlu olan bayan bana ihra\u00e7 kayd\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi seninki de mi ayn\u0131 dedi evet dedim me\u011ferse asl\u0131nda hepsi onlar\u0131n memurmu\u015f \u00f6\u011fretmenmi\u015f ve hepsi de FET\u00d6&#8217;den gelmi\u015fler bunu duyunca bir defa rahatl\u0131yorsunuz \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc FET\u00d6&#8217;den gelmi\u015f demek orada temiz insan demek\u00a0 zarar gelmez insan demek.<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Sonra rahatlay\u0131nca oturdum me\u011ferse zaten i\u00e7eriye girerken benim de ba\u015f\u0131mdan ba\u015f\u00f6rt\u00fcm\u00fc ald\u0131lar tokam\u0131 ald\u0131lar o \u015fekilde bizi oturttular 28 \u015eubat&#8217;tan sonra ilk defa ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131 a\u00e7m\u0131\u015ft\u0131m (a\u011fl\u0131yor) ben 28 \u015eubat&#8217;\u0131 da ya\u015fad\u0131m imam hatipli olarak o d\u00f6nemde o s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 da ya\u015fad\u0131m \u00fcniversitede okudum ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131 a\u00e7arak okudum o d\u00f6nemdeki insanlar\u0131n ba\u015ftan sona kar\u015f\u0131 olduklar\u0131n\u0131 o d\u00f6nemde de biliyorduk insanlar onlar\u0131n az \u00e7ok ne yapacaklar\u0131n\u0131 tahmin ediyorlard\u0131 ama \u015fu anda.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Dindar bir y\u00f6netim ba\u015ftayken ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 goz altinda a\u00e7t\u0131rmalar\u0131 \u00e7ok a\u011fr\u0131ma gitti. Toplumda dindar bir nesil olmas\u0131 toplumun dindarla\u015fmas\u0131 veya daha dindar bir nesil yeti\u015ftirmek i\u00e7in baz\u0131 ad\u0131mlar\u0131n at\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 y\u00f6n\u00fcndeydi ama i\u00e7erde bize ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 a\u00e7t\u0131rd\u0131lar bu \u00e7ok \u00e7ok a\u011fr\u0131ma gitti benim, tokam\u0131z\u0131 bile vermediler ba\u015f\u00f6rt\u00fcs\u00fcyle \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc kendimize zarar verebilirmi\u015fiz intihar edebilirmi\u015fiz. \u00c7ok sa\u00e7ma uygulamalar, h\u0131rkalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n kollar\u0131yla da \u00e7ok rahat b\u00f6yle bir \u015fey yapmak istesek yapard\u0131k ki oraya gelenlerin hepsi bu tarz \u015feylerden uzak oldu\u011funu biliyorlar ba\u015fka illerde duymad\u0131m bu benim ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m ilde oldu\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Sadece bu di\u011fer illerde bu tarz bir \u015fey duymad\u0131m farkl\u0131 illerden gelen insanlar da vard\u0131 orada bu \u015fekilde iki arkada\u015f daha sonra onlar da geldiler yani biz yedi g\u00fcn kald\u0131k ikinci gun ifademizi ald\u0131lar ifademizi ald\u0131klar\u0131 halde yedi gun kadar bizi orada tuttular. Arkas\u0131ndan mahkemeye \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131k i\u015fte do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst dinlenmeden direkt tutuklama \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131. Biz g\u00f6zalt\u0131nda zaten 23 ki\u015fiydik sonunda kalan 19&#8217;u erkekti \u00fc\u00e7\u00fc bayand\u0131 o g\u00fcn mahkemeye \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda hepimizi tutuklad\u0131lar orada anlatan arkada\u015flardan birinin ifadesi ile s\u00f6yleyeyim bizimle birlikte oturanlardan biri avukatlar falan da vard\u0131 i\u00e7imizde. ben avukat\u0131m\u0131n yan\u0131na gidip g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde avukat\u0131 demi\u015f ki ben hakimle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrken hakim daha ilk mahkemenin ba\u015f\u0131nda savc\u0131y\u0131 arad\u0131 ne yapal\u0131m bug\u00fcn gelenleri diye sormu\u015f. Art\u0131k oradan ne dediyse \u00e7ok k\u0131sa bir cevap ondan sonra tamam deyip kapatt\u0131 diyor. O g\u00fcn hepimiz de tutukland\u0131k tahminen savc\u0131n\u0131n s\u00f6yledi\u011fi \u015fey hepsini tutuklay\u0131n \u015feklinde. Kimsenin mazeretine falan bak\u0131lmad\u0131. Ertesi g\u00fcn nikah\u0131 olan birisi vard\u0131; tutukland\u0131. Bir g\u00fcn sonra d\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc vard\u0131 adam\u0131n. Hani onlar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcnce; kendi halimize \u015f\u00fckrettik. Onlar bize bak\u0131yorlard\u0131, hani bayanlar bunlar, \u00e7ocuklu insanlar; b\u0131rak\u0131rlar onlar\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>B\u0131rak\u0131rlar herhalde diye ama biz tutuklan\u0131nca onlar\u0131n da art\u0131k \u00fcmidi kesildi ondan sonra ceza evine g\u00f6t\u00fcruld\u00fck. Yolda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u015fey \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r gelmi\u015fti kelep\u00e7elenip g\u00f6t\u00fcruld\u00fck zaten a\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7as\u0131 bu kadar ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zdan sonra o kelep\u00e7e olay\u0131na bu kadar tak\u0131lmad\u0131m. Cok \u00fcz\u00fclen arkada\u015flar vard\u0131. Her kelep\u00e7e tak\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fclen arkada\u015flar vard\u0131. Ama olay\u0131n sadece somut bir g\u00f6stergesiydi ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131m\u0131z, zaten anbean etkiliyordu. Bir ara\u00e7la bulundu\u011fumuz adliyeden cezaevine sevk edildik.O sirada tam evin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7tik. Evin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7ince ben \u00e7ok duyguland\u0131m. Ondan \u00f6nce de adliyede bizi \u00e7ocuklarla falan, ailemle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcrmediler zaten.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Hani esprisine sadece biraz bizi g\u00f6t\u00fcren polis memuruyla en az\u0131ndan insani diyaloglar yapabiliyorduk. Yan\u0131m\u0131zda da \u00e7evik kuvvet oturuyordu \u201dAsl\u0131nda \u00e7ocuklar\u0131 g\u00f6rsem\u201d falan diye espri yapt\u0131m oradan di\u011fer arkada\u015f da \u201cAsl\u0131nda bizim evin \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7sek\u201d falan dedi g\u00fcld\u00fc. Ba\u015f\u0131m\u0131zdaki komiser bayan hemen i\u015fte \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsan\u0131z, \u201cbir haftad\u0131r \u00e7ocuklar\u0131m\u0131 g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum bir g\u00f6rseydim ke\u015fke\u201d, falan dedim. Bayan gen\u00e7 20 ya\u015flar\u0131nda falan \u201cbir hafta ne, 6 7 ayd\u0131r annemi babam\u0131 g\u00f6rm\u00fcyorum\u201d dedi. \u201cSiz dedim bak\u0131ma muhta\u00e7 de\u011filsiniz, anneniz baban\u0131z da de\u011fil\u201d. ben \u00f6yle deyince \u201c\u00e7ocuklar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 \u00e7ok d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorsan\u0131z, siz de girmeseydiniz\u201d falan dedi. Ben de \u201csu\u00e7lu oldu\u011fumuzu nereden \u00e7\u0131kard\u0131n\u0131z? su\u00e7lu oldu\u011fumuzu mu s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorsunuz\u201d dedim. \u201cSu\u00e7lu olmasan burada ne i\u015finiz var?\u201d dedi. \u201cFark\u0131ndaysan\u0131z biz \u015fu anda sadece tutukland\u0131k, h\u00fck\u00fcm almad\u0131k.\u201d dedim. \u201dBuna siz karar vermeyeceksiniz, mahkeme karar verecek\u201d dedim sonra komiser susturdu art\u0131k.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Daha tutuklu ve h\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fcn\u00fcn fark\u0131n\u0131 bile bilmeyen 20 ya\u015flar\u0131ndaki polislere emanet edilmi\u015f \u00fclkemiz. PYD ve PDY&#8217;nin fark\u0131n\u0131 bilmeyen polislerimize emanet edilmi\u015f \u00fclkemiz. Ger\u00e7ekten ac\u0131 bir noktada. Ondan sonra cezaevine gittik i\u015fte orada ilk. \u00c7ok bir beklentim yoktu \u00e7ok da bilmiyordum ama bu kadar\u0131n\u0131 da beklemiyordum, eski bir yer oldu\u011funu biliyordum X cezaevi&#8217;nin, bu kadar\u0131n\u0131 beklemiyorduk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Girdik eski bir bina gerekli i\u015flemler yap\u0131ld\u0131 aramalar yap\u0131ld\u0131 \u00fcst aramalar\u0131 falan yap\u0131ld\u0131, gittik. Kap\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131nda b\u00f6yle sanki ranzalar e\u015fyalar \u00fcst\u00fcm\u00fcze geliyor gibi o kadar kalabal\u0131k ki. 56. ki\u015fi olarak girdim san\u0131r\u0131m. Biz 3 bayan olarak tutukland\u0131k. 54 ki\u015filermi\u015f, 57 ki\u015fi olduk galiba ve 26 ki\u015filik bir ko\u011fu\u015f. Asl\u0131nda yine bizim ko\u011fu\u015fumuz daha iyiymi\u015f. Yan tarafta di\u011fer ko\u011fu\u015flar veya di\u011fer k\u0131s\u0131mlarda ba\u015fka ko\u011fu\u015flar varm\u0131\u015f, daha k\u00f6t\u00fc durumdalard\u0131; bizimki daha iyiydi.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bir koridor bir kenarda tuvalet lavabosu var. Koridorun ucunda mutfak k\u0131sm\u0131 var. Ayri bir koridorla banyoya a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131yor ve iki tane oda;odalar\u0131n biri normalde yatakhane biri sosyal alanm\u0131\u015f. Ancak ilk ba\u015ftaki yo\u011fun tutuklamalarla 70 ki\u015fi falan kalm\u0131\u015flar ilk ba\u015fta. O zaman a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 bask\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015flar y\u00f6netime\u201cBiz kalam\u0131yoruz\u201d diye. 26 tane yatak vard\u0131, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcmde 70&#8217;e yak\u0131n insan kal\u0131yor, yerlere falan yataklar getirmi\u015fler bu \u015fekilde. Di\u011fer odaya da yataklar, ranzalar getirmi\u015fler. Ilk ba\u015fta tutuklananlar hakimler avukatlar olunca biraz daha yol y\u00f6ntem biliyorlarm\u0131\u015f. Allah oray\u0131 da onlar\u0131n eliyle haz\u0131rlatm\u0131\u015f, sonradan gelecek olan bizlere. E\u011fer onlar olmasayd\u0131 bizler gitmi\u015f olsayd\u0131k biz b\u00f6yle bir y\u00f6ntem izleyemeyecektik. Belki ne yapaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 da bilemeyecektik. Di\u011fer ko\u011fu\u015flarda ise tuvaleti banyosu hepsi tek odan\u0131n i\u00e7inde bir tarafta yataklar var bir tarafta mutfak tezgah\u0131 bir tarafta da tuvalet banyo hepsi ayn\u0131 odan\u0131n i\u00e7inde oradaki k\u0131s\u0131mlar daha a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131. Onlar da 14 ki\u015filik falan yerlerdi ama 20 ki\u015fi falan kal\u0131yorlard\u0131 zaman zaman. Di\u011fer ko\u011fu\u015flar da o \u015fekildeydi. 3 tane FET\u00d6 ko\u011fu\u015fu vard\u0131. Zaten ilk gitti\u011fimizde arkada\u015flar\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131lamas\u0131 \u00e7ok iyiydi, hani b\u00f6yle bir rahatlatt\u0131lar. Hepimiz FET\u00d6\u2019y\u00fcz falan dediler. O rahatlat\u0131yor zaten orada. Hani bunu duyan. Yeni gelenlere daha sonras\u0131nda biz de s\u00f6yledik merak etmeyin buran\u0131n hepsi FET\u00d6 deyince i\u0307nsanlar bir rahatl\u0131yor. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc h\u0131rs\u0131z\u0131 katili uyu\u015fturucu kullan\u0131c\u0131s\u0131 her t\u00fcr insan oluyor g\u00f6zalt\u0131nda. Onlarla da kald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z oluyor baz\u0131 geceler, \u00f6yle insanlarla da kald\u0131k<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Hatta yine g\u00f6zalt\u0131ndakilere d\u00f6nersem uyu\u015fturucu ba\u011f\u0131ml\u0131s\u0131 bir k\u0131z gelmi\u015fti sizin su\u00e7unuz ne diye sordu bize b\u00f6yle gen\u00e7 20 ya\u015flar\u0131nda falan bir k\u0131z ama \u00fcst\u00fc ba\u015f\u0131 peri\u015fan belli sokakta kal\u0131yor. Siz niye buradas\u0131n\u0131z abla dedi arkada\u015f da biraz muzip \u201chi\u00e7 sorma bizimki \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r\u201cfalan dedi \u201cya ger\u00e7ekten merak ettim abla\u201d falan dedi \u201cyoksa dedi Katil mi dedi cinayet mi dedi\u201d yok dedi \u201cBiz daha da a\u011f\u0131r\u201d falan deyince b\u00f6yle \u0130ronik bir \u015fekilde k\u0131z da bir korktu \u00f6nce. Ne acaba falan diye ben de \u201csen FET\u00d6&#8217;y\u00fc biliyor musun\u201d dedim \u201ctelevizyon falan izliyor musun FET\u00d6&#8217;den geldik biz\u201d dedim \u201cha tamam\u201d dedi \u2018biliyorum\u201d. \u201dZaten dedi ne zaman gelsem FET\u00d6&#8217;c\u00fcler burada\u201d dedi \u201cbize yatacak yer b\u0131rakmad\u0131lar\u201d dedi \u201c\u00fclkede hakim doktor avukat \u00f6\u011fretmen b\u0131rakmad\u0131lar, hepsini buraya ald\u0131lar. Biz ne zaman gelsek yatacak yer olmuyor bize\u201d dedi k\u0131z ona da g\u00fcld\u00fck yani ger\u00e7ekten.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Uyu\u015fturucu ba\u011f\u0131ml\u0131s\u0131 sokakta ya\u015fayan bir k\u0131z bile bunun \u015fahidi asl\u0131nda. \u00fclkenin ne hale geldi\u011finin \u015fahidi g\u00f6zalt\u0131na kimlerin girdi\u011finin. Cezaevinde dedi\u011fim gibi arkada\u015flar\u0131n kar\u015f\u0131lamalar\u0131 \u00e7ok iyiydi, oturttular. Gece on biri falan bulmu\u015ftu bizim oraya giri\u015fimiz. Yemek falan haz\u0131rlad\u0131lar. Hemen \u201cbanyo ihtiyac\u0131n\u0131z varsa banyo yapin\u201d falan dediler \u00e7ok s\u0131cak bir kar\u015f\u0131lama idi. Rahatlatt\u0131lar bizi ama yatacak yer yok, ranzalar birle\u015ftirilmi\u015f tek tek de\u011fil. baz\u0131 ranzalar tekli bazi ranzalar da m\u00fcmk\u00fcn oldu\u011fu kadar birle\u015ftirilmi\u015f. Mesela 3 ranza birle\u015ftirilmi\u015f, 4 ki\u015fi yat\u0131yor. 2 ranza birle\u015ftirilmi\u015f, 3 ki\u015fi yat\u0131yor falan \u00f6yle bir yatak g\u00f6sterdiler bana da arkada\u015flar\u0131ma da. 4. ki\u015fi olarak ge\u00e7tim yata\u011fa yan\u0131mda k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir \u00e7ocuk vard\u0131 3 ya\u015flar\u0131nda. Annesi ile birlikte kal\u0131yordu, benim o\u011flumun ya\u015f\u0131na yak\u0131n olunca sa\u00e7lar\u0131 falan da benzeyince k\u00f6t\u00fc hissettim.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Geceleri arada uyan\u0131yordu \u201cAnne\u201d diyordu o\u011flumun sesi zannediyordum bazen. Ama her seferinde o\u011flumu hat\u0131rl\u0131yordum o gece ne yap\u0131yor acaba diye. \u00c7ocuklar da kal\u0131yordu orada \u00e7ok zorlan\u0131yorlardi. Bu bahsetti\u011fim \u00e7ocuk mesela anne baba tutuklu, aylarca babaannenin yan\u0131nda falan kalm\u0131\u015f \u00e7ocuk, konu\u015fmay\u0131 unutmu\u015ftu. Geldikten sonra i\u015fte ben gitti\u011fimde bir iki ayd\u0131r kal\u0131yordu. Orada annesinin yan\u0131na geldikten sonra baya\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131. Diyordu annesi \u00e7ok kelimeyi tekrar toparlamaya ba\u015flad\u0131. Hala da devam ediyor, hala da her g\u00fcn bunlar yap\u0131lmaya devam ediliyor, maalesef bir yandan b\u0131rak\u0131l\u0131yor bir yandan al\u0131n\u0131yor\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Ne anlataca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 bilemiyorum o kadar \u00e7ok insan vard\u0131 ki her birinin ayr\u0131 hayat hikayesi her birinin ayr\u0131 ya\u015fant\u0131s\u0131 cok uzuyordu bizi onlar. Bir tane daha \u00e7ocuk vard\u0131. \u00c7ok hareketliydi annesini \u00e7ok zorluyordu. Daha sonradan gelmi\u015fti, bizden bir ay sonra falan gelmi\u015fti, \u00e7ok zorluyordu. Annesi ara ara sinir krizleri ge\u00e7iriyordu, \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyorduk onlar\u0131n o hallerine. Ne anlataca\u011f\u0131m\u0131 su an bilemiyorum, akl\u0131ma \u00e7ok \u015fey geliyor ama toparlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorum\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Gitti\u011fimizde Eyl\u00fcl&#8217;\u00fcn ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri yakla\u015f\u0131k 9 ay falan olmustu, 8 ay olmu\u015ftu pardon. 8 ayd\u0131r kalanlar vard\u0131, 7 ayd\u0131r kalanlar vard\u0131, 5-6 aydir. Ve bir \u00e7o\u011funun iddianamesi bile yoktu. Aylarca beklemi\u015f insanlar orada mahkemeye \u00e7\u0131kan tek t\u00fckt\u00fc. Mahkemesiz b\u0131rak\u0131lmalar \u00e7ok azd\u0131. sonra mahkemeler ba\u015flad\u0131 yava\u015f yava\u015f May\u0131s ay\u0131 gibi mahkemeler ba\u015flad\u0131 Bank Asya&#8217;dan gelenlerin hemen hemen hepsini o mahkemelerde b\u0131rakt\u0131lar ve aylarca tutuklu kald\u0131ktan sonra insanlar, 9 ay 10 ay kald\u0131ktan sonra, \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131klar\u0131 mahkemelerde do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst dinlememi\u015fler bile \u00e7ok h\u0131zl\u0131 bir \u015fekilde gitti. Mahkeme en son do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst savunmam\u0131z\u0131 bile almad\u0131lar dediler. S\u00fcre\u00e7 yava\u015f yava\u015f \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcl\u00fcyor mu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesi uyand\u0131 bizde Hani ilk ba\u015fta ilk tutuklamalar Bank Asya&#8217;dan yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve Bank Asya&#8217;da paras\u0131 olan \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r su\u00e7lu muamelesi g\u00f6r\u00fcyordu, direk ihrac edilmi\u015flerdi ve direk tutuklan\u0131yorlardi. Bank Asya\u2019da paran varsa kesin tutuklan\u0131yorsun.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 vardi insanlarda ama. 9 ay sonra 8 ay sonra insanlar do\u011fru d\u00fcr\u00fcst savunma bile yapmadan tahliye edildiler. Bu da ger\u00e7ekten ger\u00e7ek bir mahkeme mi tiyatro mu onun ayr\u0131m\u0131na varam\u0131yorsunuz \u00d6yle olunca. hani orada bizi rahatlatan \u015fey \u015fuydu: Demek ki b\u00fct\u00fcn isnadlar ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde bir g\u00fcn gelecek \u00e7ok da \u00f6nemli olmayacak, yani bizim i\u00e7in \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r gibi g\u00f6r\u00fcnse de. Bu arada biz eski cezaevinde \u00e7ok s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar ya\u015fad\u0131k, ondan bahsedeyim. Ortam \u015fartlar\u0131 \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fcyd\u00fc. Bir g\u00fcn, Haziran da yeni yere ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131k neredeyse bir y\u0131l kadar o cezaevinde insanlar kalm\u0131\u015flar. Dedi\u011fim gibi k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck bir yer 26 ki\u015filik yerde biz 70 ki\u015fi kald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z d\u00f6nem oldu. 63 tane kad\u0131n, 7 tane \u00e7ocu\u011fun kald\u0131\u011f\u0131 d\u00f6nem de oldu. Onun d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da hep 60 k\u00fcs\u00fcrlerdeydik zaten hep. Bir defa havaland\u0131rma neredeyse yok gibi, k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck tuvalet penceresi kadar pencereler d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn ve \u00e7ok y\u00fcksek tavanlar d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bir duvar\u0131n sadece kenar\u0131nda 5-6 tane tuvalet penceresi gibi pencere sadece g\u00fcne\u015f \u0131\u015f\u0131\u011f\u0131 geliyor oradan. Normalde o pencerelerde cam da var ya da 3 tanesinde. Pervane vard\u0131 havaland\u0131rmay\u0131 sa\u011flayacak ama o kadar insan bir odada kal\u0131yoruz. O kadar insan\u0131n hava almas\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fil oradan bir tane de klima vard\u0131. Zar zor klima takt\u0131rm\u0131\u015flar dilek\u00e7e falan yazarak ama o sekilde. Ama klima yetmiyor; k\u0131\u015f\u0131n bile klimay\u0131 so\u011fukta \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131rm\u0131\u015flar, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn yaz\u0131n ne haldeydi ki. Yaz\u0131n zaten haziran may\u0131s ay\u0131nda falan klimam\u0131z bozuldu yerlere su ak\u0131yordu. Hi\u00e7bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm falan da \u00fcretilmiyordu. Yeni yere ta\u015f\u0131nacaks\u0131n\u0131z yeni cezaevi yap\u0131l\u0131yor diye. Yerlere su ak\u0131t\u0131yordu. Klima s\u00fcrekli b\u00f6yle orada. Biz normalde namaz k\u0131l\u0131yorduk namaz k\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z yerde s\u00fcrekli sular daml\u0131yordu. Kovalar falan koyuyorduk namaz s\u0131ras\u0131nda kald\u0131r\u0131yorduk. Baya\u011f\u0131 survivor gibi ko\u015fullarda.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u00c7ok ciddi anlamda hamam b\u00f6ce\u011fi vard\u0131. Boyle hani ne kadar anlatsak da d\u0131\u015far\u0131daki insanlar\u0131n anlamad\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir durum. Oyle tahmin ediyoruz. C\u00fcnk\u00fc duvarlardan falan resmen f\u0131\u015fk\u0131r\u0131yordu, banyo taraf\u0131ndan falan o kadar \u00e7ok fazlayd\u0131 ki. Art\u0131k sa\u011f\u0131n\u0131z solunuz. Tiksiniyorsunuz ama yapacak hi\u00e7bir\u015fey yok al\u0131\u015fmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorsunuz. Ama sonuna kadar al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 zannetmiyorum ben. Sadece onlarla ya\u015famay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim. Evde bir tane bile g\u00f6rsem \u00e7\u0131\u011fl\u0131k atard\u0131m eskiden \u015fimdi herhalde daha o kadar tepki vermem. Biraz o ko\u015fullar\u0131 nefis terbiyesi olarak d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fcm. Bir\u00e7ok arkada\u015f da \u00f6yle d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordu. Herkes zay\u0131f noktas\u0131 ne ise onunla imtihan oluyordu galiba. Orada herkes t\u00f6rp\u00fclenmeye geldi\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyordu orada.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Tezgah\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde geziyorlard\u0131, yataklar\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcnde geziyorlard\u0131. Ekmek falan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda. Ramazan&#8217;\u0131 da orada ge\u00e7irdik. Erken getiriyorlard\u0131 ekmegi, po\u015fete koyuyorduk. \u0130ftara kadar \u00e7ok iyi muhafaza etmek laz\u0131m iyice a\u011fz\u0131n\u0131 ba\u011flay\u0131p. Sofran\u0131n aras\u0131na falan sar\u0131yorduk ki b\u00f6cek girmesin diye. Bir keresinde bir kenar\u0131 delinmi\u015f po\u015fetin ve ald\u0131\u011f\u0131mda i\u00e7i doluydu. Yani o kadar \u00e7ok fazlayd\u0131 ki. Bunlar\u0131 yani b\u00f6yle \u00e7ok i\u011fren\u00e7 belki de anlat\u0131nca ho\u015f olmuyor ama aylarca bu \u015fekilde ya\u015fad\u0131k. Yemeklerin a\u011fz\u0131na ciddi \u00f6rtmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorduk. Orada bir ki\u015fi yemek ald\u0131ktan sonra hemen a\u011fz\u0131n\u0131 kapatmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorduk. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck bir delik bile olsa karavanalar\u0131n a\u011fz\u0131nda oradan girecekler diye korkuyorduk. C\u00fcnk\u00fc etraf\u0131nda geziyorlard\u0131, \u00fcst\u00fcnde geziyorlard\u0131.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u00c7ok zordu banyo yapmak zaten. Banyo sobas\u0131 ile, odun ile \u0131s\u0131n\u0131yordu o \u015fekilde s\u0131cak su temin ediyorduk g\u00fcne\u015f enerjisi bile yoktu. Bu da tabii odun geldi\u011fi g\u00fcnlerde banyo yapabiliyorduk. Bazen odun olmuyordu vermiyorlard\u0131. O zaman sadece mecbur kalanlar gus\u00fcl almas\u0131 gerekenler falan al\u0131yordu baz\u0131 g\u00fcnler oluyordu, olunca genellikle hani odun oldu\u011fu zamanlarda haftada iki kere ancak banyo yapma \u015fans\u0131m\u0131z oluyordu. Ama o kalabal\u0131kta o may\u0131s ay\u0131nda bile ki hani \u00e7ok yaz de\u011fil ama her g\u00fcn banyo yapma ihtiyac\u0131 hissediyorduk. Ona ra\u011fmen haftada iki kere falan ancak yapabiliyorduk.\u00a0 yok yani odun yok. Bunu daha \u00e7ok ihtiya\u00e7 olarak hissedenler so\u011fuk su ile banyo yap\u0131yorlard\u0131.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Banyo s\u0131ra ile, tuvalet s\u0131ra ile, yemek almak s\u0131rayla, namaz k\u0131lmak s\u0131rayla. Oyle oluyordu ki bazen ak\u015fam namaz\u0131n\u0131n vakti de dar olunca yats\u0131 ezan\u0131na 5 dakika 10 dakika kalana kadar hala oras\u0131 bo\u015falm\u0131yor orada ve ancak ezana yetisiyordu hepimizin namaz\u0131.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Bir kere \u00e7ok alakas\u0131z insanlarda geldi \u00f6yle diyeyim yani. Hi\u00e7bir FET\u00d6 ile alakas\u0131 olmayan kenar\u0131ndan k\u0131y\u0131s\u0131ndan ge\u00e7memi\u015f insanlar geldi. Onlar\u0131n haline de ayr\u0131ca \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyorduk. Hi\u00e7birimiz orada kalmay\u0131 hak etmiyorduk elbette. Hi\u00e7birimiz ter\u00f6rist de\u011fildik, vatan haini de\u011fildik ama kimisi \u00e7ocu\u011funu okula g\u00f6ndermi\u015f, kimisi dershanede \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015f. Kimisi yurtta kalm\u0131\u015f, kimisi yurtta m\u00fcd\u00fcrl\u00fck yapm\u0131\u015f. Hani b\u00f6yle i\u0307nsanlar\u0131n oldu\u011fu bir yer. Kimisinin hi\u00e7 hi\u00e7 alakas\u0131 yok, bylock diye gelmi\u015flerdi. Bak\u0131yorsunuz yani bu her taraf\u0131 FET\u00d6 olsa kime ne zarar\u0131 olur dedi\u011finiz insanlard\u0131 bir\u00e7o\u011fu. Ama oradalard\u0131. Ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar her birinin ayr\u0131 ailesinin \u00e7ekti\u011fi s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131 ayr\u0131. Bir ki\u015fi en az 10 ki\u015fi demek orada bir ki\u015fi en az 20 ki\u015fi, 30 ki\u015fi demek. Arkas\u0131nda g\u00f6z\u00fc ya\u015fl\u0131 bekleyen bir ki\u015fi girince b\u00fct\u00fcn ailenin psikolojisi etkileniyor. Mmaddi olarak zorlan\u0131yorlar, manevi olarak zorlan\u0131yorlar<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u00c7ocuklar\u0131 d\u0131\u015far\u0131da insanlar\u0131n, \u00e7ift tutuklu olanlarin haline bak\u0131yorduk; daha \u00e7ok halimize \u015f\u00fck\u00fcr ediyorduk. En az\u0131ndan tek tutukland\u0131m, e\u015fim var \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n yan\u0131nda falan diye d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorduk baz\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131z. Onlar\u0131n halini g\u00f6r\u00fcnce s\u00fckrediyorduk. Yani kendimizden daha k\u00f6t\u00fc olanlar vard\u0131. Cift tutuklu olanlar\u0131n yan\u0131nda e\u015fimizden bile bahsetmiyorduk. Hani \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcrler, incinirler diye. Ama tabii d\u0131\u015far\u0131da da onlar g\u00fcvende de\u011fillerdi, tabii onun tedirginli\u011fi de oluyordu s\u00fcrekli. Acaba gelecek mi bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fe. Bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fe de gelebilecek mi, onu da al\u0131rlarsa \u00e7ok daha beter. \u0130lk ba\u015flarda \u00e7ok zorluyor insan\u0131 \u00e7ocuklardan ayr\u0131 kalmak, her gece r\u00fcyalar\u0131mda g\u00f6r\u00fcyordum.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Genelde r\u00fcyalar\u0131mda bir saatli\u011fine, iki saatli\u011fine, genelde bir saatli\u011fine eve gitmi\u015fim. \u00c7ocuklar\u0131 alm\u0131\u015f\u0131m bir yere gitmi\u015fim. Tekrar d\u00f6necekmi\u015fim hep b\u00f6yle r\u00fcyalar g\u00f6r\u00fcyordum. R\u00fcyalar\u0131m\u0131z bile k\u0131s\u0131tl\u0131yd\u0131. Kendi kendimize unutmay\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendik. Herhalde tevekk\u00fcl etmeyi \u00f6\u011frendik \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc hi\u00e7bir \u015feye m\u00fcdahale edemiyorduk. Her \u015fey Allah\u2019in elinde. Bir tane teyze vard\u0131, onun ifadesiyle \u201cBizi buraya Allah koydu, Allah \u00e7\u0131karacak\u201d diyordu.\u00a0 tevekk\u00fcl ufkuna ula\u015f\u0131nca insan\u0131n canii ac\u0131m\u0131yor. Ondan sonra hi\u00e7bir \u015fey beklemiyorsunuz, sadece \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyorsunuz olanlara. Ama kendi ac\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 unutunca bu sefer etraf\u0131n\u0131zdakilerin ac\u0131lar\u0131 sizi \u00fcz\u00fcyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Yeni yere ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda bayram \u00f6ncesi, orada yeni yerde \u00e7ok insan geldi gitti. Bizim ko\u011fu\u015fta s\u00fcrekli tahliye oluyordu ve s\u00fcrekli yeni gelen oluyordu dolay\u0131s\u0131yla s\u0131k s\u0131k tahliye veriyorduk. Haftada-10 g\u00fcnde bir bazen ortalama olarak tahliye veriyorduk o y\u00fczden bizim ko\u011fu\u015fa hep yeni gelenleri getiriyorlard\u0131. O insanlar\u0131n yeni gelenlerin haline \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcl\u00fcyordum. Gidenlere kendimizden daha \u00e7ok seviniyorduk. A\u00e7\u0131k\u00e7as\u0131 ben kendim tahliye oldu\u011fumda baskalarini tahliye ederken ki sevincimi ya\u015fayamad\u0131m. Geride b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z insanlar\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcnce insan sevinemiyor zaten. Ama birilerinin gitmesi bir ki\u015fi daha kurtuldu diye o kadar \u00e7ok seviniyorduk ki. Sonra a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 sevin\u00e7 ve a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 \u00fcz\u00fcnt\u00fc hallerini ya\u015fay\u0131nca, her \u015feyde her bir haber&#8217;de bir g\u00fcn televizyonda haberlerde \u015fu olmu\u015f bu olmu\u015f \u015fu olacak bu olacak, yok i\u015fte k\u0131yafet gelecek her \u015fey insan\u0131 \u00fcz\u00fcyor her g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f, \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n her haberi \u00fcz\u00fcyor. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla panik atak ba\u015flad\u0131 sonras\u0131nda bende artik bu halleri kald\u0131ramay\u0131nca.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Ben \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131ktan bir s\u00fcre sonra bir on 20 ki\u015filik liste yay\u0131nland\u0131 ve hepsi o listede ismi olan herkes serbest b\u0131rak\u0131ld\u0131 aniden beraat ettiler. Hatta \u015fimdilerde haberlerini al\u0131yoruz beraat ettiler aylarca yatt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 kimse \u00f6deyemeyecek. 62 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir teyze vard\u0131 beraat etti \u015fimdi ama aylarca kald\u0131 orada, 3-4 ay kald\u0131. 20 k\u00fcs\u00fcr ya\u015flar\u0131nda gen\u00e7 bir k\u0131z vard\u0131 annesi arap ama tutuklanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 FET\u00d6 diye; FET\u00d6&#8217;n\u00fcn F&#8217;sini bilmiyor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Tutuklanm\u0131\u015f bylock var diye \u00e7ok alakas\u0131z insanlar vard\u0131. Onlar\u0131n hepsi tahliye oldular, \u00e7ok sevindik. Beraat ettiler \u00e7ok sevindik; ama asl\u0131na bakarsan\u0131z biz de su\u00e7lu de\u011fildik zaten. \u0130n\u015fallah bizim de beraat etti\u011fimiz g\u00fcnleri g\u00f6rece\u011fiz diye \u00fcmit ediyoruz\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>Yeni yerden bahsedeyim biraz da, fiziki \u015fartlar\u0131ndan. Eski cezaevinden yeni cezaevine gidince biz daha d\u00fczenli bir \u015fey bekliyorduk ama i\u0307n\u015faat bir yerin i\u00e7ine gittik. Bir de hani kaba temizli\u011fi yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015f ama \u00e7ok pis b\u0131rak\u0131lm\u0131\u015f. Her yerde \u00e7imento art\u0131klar\u0131 falan kurumu\u015f boyalar, kumlar. Yatakhanelerin oldu\u011fu k\u0131s\u0131mlar\u0131 y\u0131kad\u0131k falan g\u00fcnlerce y\u0131kad\u0131k y\u0131kad\u0131k. O \u015fekilde alt\u0131ndan hala kumlar \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yordu bu s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131lar\u0131 \u00e7ok ya\u015fad\u0131k. Yeni yerde sular i\u00e7ilmiyordu zaten i\u00e7ilecek vaziyette de\u011fildi. O y\u00fczden kantinden ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z sular\u0131 kullan\u0131yorduk zaten \u00f6ncesinde de onlar\u0131 kullan\u0131yorduk i\u00e7mek i\u00e7in ama temizlik i\u00e7in bile su yoktu. \u0130lk ba\u015flarda temizlik malzemesi bir hafta kadar ne paspas ne \u00e7ama\u015f\u0131r suyu hi\u00e7bir \u015fey vermediler. Temizlik malzemesi bile yoktu. Hatta bir tuvalet ma\u015frapam\u0131z bile yoktu. Yani su \u015fi\u015felerini kesip onlar\u0131 kulland\u0131k. Daha \u00e7ok ma\u011fdur olduk yeni yere ta\u015f\u0131n\u0131nca. Mesela saat yoktu ve de ramazan ay\u0131nda ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131k. \u0130ftar ne zaman sahur ne zaman g\u00fcne\u015f&#8217;i g\u00f6rme imkan\u0131m\u0131z zaten yok. Biraz daha pencereleri b\u00fcy\u00fckt\u00fc yeni yerde eski taraftaki havaland\u0131rmaya mesela g\u00fcnde 2 kere \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yorduk sabah 9 \u00f6\u011flen 12 aras\u0131 bir de 15.30 alt\u0131 bu\u00e7uk aras\u0131. Burada yeni tarafta sabah 7&#8217;den ak\u015fam 7&#8217;ye kadar havaland\u0131rma saatimiz vard\u0131 ama dedi\u011fim gibi iftar\u0131 sahuru bilemiyorduk. Saatimiz yoktu, takvimimiz yoktu elimizde. G\u00fcne\u015fin havaland\u0131rma k\u0131sm\u0131nda b\u0131rakt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00e7izgilerden g\u00f6lgelerden anl\u0131yorduk art\u0131k zaten yakla\u015f\u0131k saat ka\u00e7 oldu\u011funu. Mesela oralara \u00e7izgi \u00e7izmeye ba\u015flam\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. \u0130\u015faret koyuyorduk ya da \u015furaya gelince yakla\u015f\u0131k 12 demek \u015furaya gelince 3 demek. Duvarda g\u00fcne\u015fin gitti\u011fi noktadan yakla\u015f\u0131k saati tahmin ediyorduk saat olmadan. Herhalde bir hafta falan ya\u015fad\u0131k gelen giden memurlara soruyorduk saati<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u0130ki bayram ge\u00e7irdik orada bir ramazan bir kurban bayram\u0131 ge\u00e7irdim ailelerden uzak; \u00e7ok zordu. Birbirimize bunu hissettirmemek i\u00e7in i\u015fte herkes bir \u015fekilde bir \u015feyler bulmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yo. Herkes i\u00e7inde ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ac\u0131y\u0131 bast\u0131rmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor di\u011ferlerinin moralini de bozmamak i\u00e7in. Orada bir ki\u015finin a\u011flamas\u0131 demek bir ki\u015finin \u00fcz\u00fclmesi demek oradaki herkesin moralinin bozulmas\u0131 demek Bunu bildi\u011fimiz i\u00e7in herkes ne\u015feli olmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. bayram sabah\u0131nda bir tane 50 k\u00fcs\u00fcr ya\u015flar\u0131nda bir tane ablam\u0131z vard\u0131 sa\u011f olsun annelik yapard\u0131 bize. Orada kalk\u0131p kahvalt\u0131 haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015f, bayram\u0131n sabah\u0131nda. G\u00fczelce masalar\u0131 bah\u00e7eye \u00e7\u0131karm\u0131\u015f. I\u015fte bah\u00e7e dedi\u011fim havaland\u0131rmaya \u00e7\u0131karm\u0131\u015f. Kahvalt\u0131 haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015f, bizi uyand\u0131rd\u0131. Orada ortam \u00e7ok zordu, \u015fartlar \u00e7ok zor, su\u00e7lamalar \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r. oray\u0131 tek g\u00fczelle\u015ftiren \u015fey insanlardi. G\u00fczel insanlar tan\u0131d\u0131m \u00e7ok \u00e7ok g\u00fczel insanlar tan\u0131d\u0131m anlatacak daha \u00e7ok \u015fey var belki ama.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span><strong>Soru ve Cevap:<\/strong><\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: Senin i\u00e7in orada vakit darald\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in istersen ara verelim sonra bir kez daha G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015felim Hem o zaman anlatmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n \u015feyleri anlataca\u011f\u0131n \u015feyleri kafanda toparlars\u0131n bu anlatt\u0131klar\u0131nla ilgili birka\u00e7 bir \u015fey sorabilir miyim. 26 yata\u011f\u0131n oldu\u011fu 70\u2019e yak\u0131n ki\u015fi kald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z yerde ne kadar kald\u0131n?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: 2,5 ay falan kald\u0131m ben orada<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: Bir de baz\u0131 \u00e7ocuklar\u0131n babaannesi ile falan kal\u0131p daha sonra annesinin yan\u0131na geldi\u011fini d\u0131\u015far\u0131da konu\u015fmay\u0131 unuttu\u011funu ama annesinin yan\u0131nda dilinin \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc falan s\u00f6yledin bu konu\u015fmay\u0131 unutma olay\u0131 nedendi? sizce \u00e7ocuk d\u0131\u015far\u0131da anneden ayr\u0131 oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in mi\u00a0 travmatik bir \u015fekilde konu\u015fmadan uzak d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc yoksa yeterince ilgilenilmedi\u011fi i\u00e7in mi konu\u015fmay\u0131 unutmu\u015ftu?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: Her ikisi de galiba \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc hem anne hem baba yok tam dil geli\u015fiminin ba\u015flang\u0131c\u0131nda. Muhtemelen travma kaynakl\u0131 ama belki ilgi yeterince olsa babaanne ve dedenin k\u00f6yde oldu\u011funu, \u00e7ok ilgilenemeyen insanlar olduklar\u0131n\u0131 falan s\u00f6ylemi\u015flerdi. Muhtemelen daha \u00e7ok ilgilenen daha bilin\u00e7li babaanne olsayd\u0131, belki travmay\u0131 kolay atlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in dil geli\u015fimi de sekteye u\u011framayacakt\u0131 muhtemelen.<\/span><span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: peki i\u00e7erde sinir krizi ge\u00e7irenler oldu\u011funu s\u00f6ylemi\u015ftin onlar neden oldu ve nas\u0131l olmu\u015ftu?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: yani o \u00e7ok defa oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in \u00e7ocukla birlikte kalmak \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r geliyordu, zorlayan \u00e7ocuktu. Herkesin psikolojisi o kadar k\u00f6t\u00fc bir hale gelmi\u015fti ki \u00e7ift tutuklu olanlar \u00f6zellikle \u00e7ok zorlan\u0131yorlard\u0131.<\/span><span><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: bir ki\u015fi mi vard\u0131 yoksa birka\u00e7 ki\u015fi mi?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: \u00e7ok ki\u015fi \u00e7ok defa. Mesela \u00e7ocu\u011fun annesinin gecirdi\u011fini biliyorum. Yan\u0131mda yatan baska bir arkada\u015f mesela ilk kez benden 20 g\u00fcn \u00f6nce falan gelmi\u015f, ilk defa a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ften gelince mesela o ge\u00e7irdi; \u00e7ok \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fclm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm b\u00f6yle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: peki sinir krizinden kastetti\u011fin nedir?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: Kimisi \u00e7ok a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 a\u011flamak kendini kaybetme \u015feklinde. Bay\u0131lma de\u011fil ama y\u00fcksek sesle hani kendini atarak o \u015fekilde a\u011flama. Kontrol d\u0131\u015f\u0131 bir a\u011flamadan bahsediyorum. Kimisinin de ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131 travmalar\u0131 atlatamamas\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 psikolojik rahats\u0131zl\u0131klar\u0131 oluyordu. Baz\u0131 arkada\u015flar\u0131n ila\u00e7 da kullan\u0131yorlard\u0131, ila\u00e7lar\u0131 gecikince ya\u015fad\u0131klar\u0131 \u015feylerden etkilendiklerinde kimi zaman mahkemesine yak\u0131n, kimi zaman g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f sonras\u0131, kimi zaman \u00e7ocu\u011funu \u00e7ok \u00f6zleyince, bir an bir foto\u011fraf\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde, genellikle bilin\u00e7 kayb\u0131na yak\u0131n \u015fekilde bu tarz krizler ge\u00e7iriyorlard\u0131 insanlar.<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><i><span>S: peki ilk g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n zaman evdekilerin, e\u015finin tepkisi ne oldu o s\u0131rada?<\/span><\/i><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>C: Hepimiz tedirgindik. E\u015fim de zaten hani bekliyorsun ama bekledi\u011fini ya\u015famak ne kadar haz\u0131rl\u0131kl\u0131 olursan ol bekledi\u011fini ya\u015famak da \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r geldi. Hepimiz tedirgin olduk. Bir bilinmezlik bekliyordu bizi. Sakin bir \u015fekilde kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131k, geldiler memurlar da. Sonu\u00e7ta onlar da kendi ba\u015flar\u0131na ald\u0131klar\u0131 bir karar de\u011fildi, yard\u0131mc\u0131 olmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k elimizden geldi\u011fince. Herkes \u00e7ok \u00fczg\u00fcnd\u00fc tabii b\u00f6yle bir \u015feyi hak etmedi\u011fimiz i\u00e7in. Ayn\u0131 zamanda korkuyorduk tutuklama olur mu olmaz m\u0131 \u00f6yle bir s\u00fcre\u00e7ti. \u00c7ocuklar\u0131 falan uyand\u0131rmamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yorduk. Haftada bir kapal\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f, yar\u0131m saatlik iki ayda bir de a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f vard\u0131. Normalde bir \u00e7ok ba\u015fka cezaevinde ayda bir a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f yap\u0131l\u0131rken buras\u0131 kad\u0131n cezaevi olmas\u0131na ra\u011fmen 2 ayda bir a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f yap\u0131l\u0131yordu. A\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerde bir saatti. Normalde y\u00fcz y\u00fcze masan\u0131n etraf\u0131nda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015febiliyorduk a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fte. Kapal\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fte arada camlar telefonla konu\u015fmak suretiyle yap\u0131yorduk. \u0130ki haftada bir de telefon hakk\u0131m\u0131z vard\u0131. Yaln\u0131z yeni yere ta\u015f\u0131n\u0131nca bu a\u00e7\u0131k g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerin normalde y\u00f6netmelikte 30 dakika ile 1 saat aras\u0131 yap\u0131labilir diye ge\u00e7iyormu\u015f insiyatif olarak 45 dakika falan yapt\u0131r\u0131yorlard\u0131 bir saat yapt\u0131rm\u0131yorlard\u0131. Eski cezaevinde bir saatti. Hatta bir iki kez bunun i\u00e7in tart\u0131\u015ft\u0131k y\u00f6netimle neden 45 dakika yapt\u0131r\u0131yorsunuz falan diye. Hatta bayramda ekstra bir g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f vermi\u015flerdi. Ilk defa bir\u00e7ok cezaevi bayramlarda y\u0131lba\u015f\u0131nda \u00f6zel g\u00fcnlerde 23 nisan&#8217;da falan ekstra g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f veriyorlarm\u0131\u015f. Bize bir anneler g\u00fcn\u00fc&#8217;nde verdiler. O da dilek\u00e7e falan yazm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Bir de bayramda ekstra g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f verdiler. Onu da k\u0131sa tuttular ilk g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerde k\u0131sa tutuyorlard\u0131. Bu da tamamen oradaki memurlar\u0131n insiyatifi 30 dakika ile 1 saat aras\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f yapt\u0131r\u0131l\u0131r diyorlard\u0131 onlar k\u0131s\u0131tl\u0131yorlarda. Bu da \u00e7ok \u00fcz\u00fcyordu bizi. Zaten 2 ay boyunca beklemi\u015f insanlar uzak yollardan gelmi\u015f, kilometrelerce uzaklardan, ba\u015fka \u015fehirlerden gelen bir\u00e7ok insan vard\u0131. Yar\u0131m saat yani bizim i\u00e7in orada bir dakika bile \u00e7ocu\u011fumuza daha fazla sar\u0131lmak \u00e7ok \u00f6nemliyken bunun k\u0131s\u0131tlanmas\u0131 \u00e7ok zorumuza gidiyordu tabii.<\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span>&#8212;k\u0131z\u0131m 10 ya\u015f\u0131nda benim. O zaman 9 ya\u015f\u0131ndayd\u0131. Bu s\u00fcrece biraz haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m, anlatm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m b\u00f6yle b\u00f6yle \u015feyler olabilir. Zaten fark\u0131ndal\u0131\u011f\u0131 y\u00fcksek bir \u00e7ocuk. Darbeden beri az \u00e7ok olanlar\u0131 takip ediyordu. Ulkenin kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n fark\u0131ndayd\u0131. Ama bizi b\u00f6yle bir \u015feyin etkilemesini beklemiyordu \u00e7ocuk. Tabii ki ben anlatt\u0131m, a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nd\u0131ktan sonra b\u00f6yle b\u00f6yle a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nd\u0131m. Devlet de bunu ay\u0131klayana kadar ger\u00e7ek hainleri bulana kadar herkesi, bir \u00e7o\u011funu sorgudan ge\u00e7irecek diye \u00f6n haz\u0131rl\u0131k yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. \u0130fade verece\u011fimi tahmin ederek, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u00f6yle s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlard\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131\u011fa al\u0131nan herkes ifadesini verecek, g\u00f6zalt\u0131 ya\u015fayacak diyorlard\u0131. Bu duyumlara binaen ki \u00f6yle de yap\u0131yorlard\u0131 yani. \u0130lk ba\u015flarda bulundu\u011fumuz yerlerde insanlar\u0131n s\u00fcrekli g\u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc, g\u00f6zalt\u0131na al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, kimisinin bir iki g\u00fcn kimisinin bir hafta kald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 duyuyorduk. Oyle duyunca k\u0131z\u0131m\u0131 haz\u0131rlam\u0131\u015ft\u0131m \u00f6yle diyeyim. Gayet de bilin\u00e7li bir \u00e7ocuk zaten. \u00c7ok zorlanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ama gidece\u011fim ama geri gelece\u011fim falan diye anlatm\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. O y\u00fczden \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir \u015fok ya\u015famad\u0131. Zaten teyzeleri de evdeydi o g\u00fcn, okula g\u00f6ndermi\u015fler. Ben gittikten sonra, okuldan gelince okula g\u00f6nderirken i\u015fte annen \u00e7ar\u015f\u0131ya gitti falan demi\u015fler. Sonra okuldan gelince \u00e7ekmi\u015fler, anlatm\u0131\u015flar. O k\u0131s\u0131mlar zaten diyor teyzemler gel seninle bir \u015fey konu\u015faca\u011f\u0131z deyince anlad\u0131m zaten anne diyor. Annem gitti mi dedim diyor. Muhtemelen \u015foktan ilk g\u00fcn hi\u00e7 a\u011flamam\u0131\u015f sonra gelip gidip ben niye a\u011flam\u0131yorum annemi sevmiyor muyum diye a\u011flad\u0131m diyor. Sokkavram\u0131ni bilmedi\u011fi i\u00e7in \u00e7ocuk daha sonraki g\u00fcnlerde aglam\u0131\u015f. Cok olgun ya\u015fad\u0131 bu s\u00fcreci hani biliyorum sen su\u00e7suzsun geleceksin, \u00fcmidimizi hi\u00e7 kaybetmiyoruz falan diye mektuplar yaz\u0131yordu bana.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<pre>Copyrighted to Undaunted Voices of Turkey<\/pre>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Neither hundreds of cockroaches around her nor sharing a 26-bed capacity cell with 70 other women devastated her. 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